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this was the type of performance that romney brought last night. bill crystal in "the weekly standard" said, romney comes out of the debate with momentum. can his campaign turn a good debate into a true inflection point in the presidential race? so in your estimation, your guy went up against mitt romney in the primary and debates, how does this mitt romney last night compare to the one that your guy debated against and then how does romney seize on this moment to keep up that momentum in the final days? >> well, first of all, i'm not the least bit surprised mitt romney did as well as he did. he did well in the 20 debates rick santorum went up against him. i would also argue one of the big advantages romney had going into the debate was he did have to debate rick santorum, he did have to debate newt gingrich. it is like having a preseason. and the president didn't have that. i think the other key thing that came out of this is the presidential race for all practical purposes actually started last night. a lot of people just didn't know mitt romney
this was the type of performance that romney brought last night. bill crystal in "the weekly standard" said, romney comes out of the debate with momentum. can his campaign turn a good debate into a true inflection point in the presidential race? so in your estimation, your guy went up against mitt romney in the primary and debates, how does this mitt romney last night compare to the one that your guy debated against and then how does romney seize on this moment to keep up that...
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bigad shaban, cbs news, denver. >> even people in california say romney won the debate last night. an exclusive poll of adults here in the golden state show 48% think governor romney won compared to 34% for president obama. 18% felt there was no clear-cut winner. >>> we would like to get a discussion going this morning. who do you think won round one of the presidential debates and why? comment on facebook, twitter or email us at mornings@cbs5.com. >>> we know the candidates in debates sometimes put spins on the facts to benefit their arguments. here are a couple of fact checks on last night's debate courtesy of the associated press. president obama suggested the u.s. will save money by winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. the truth, the wars have been funded with borrowed money. so ending them only means less borrowing, not a new pool of available cash. then there was romney's claim that the president's healthcare plan creates an unelected board to tell people what kind of treatments they can v the truth is the board looks at overall medicare costs by law doesn't have th
bigad shaban, cbs news, denver. >> even people in california say romney won the debate last night. an exclusive poll of adults here in the golden state show 48% think governor romney won compared to 34% for president obama. 18% felt there was no clear-cut winner. >>> we would like to get a discussion going this morning. who do you think won round one of the presidential debates and why? comment on facebook, twitter or email us at mornings@cbs5.com. >>> we know the...
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it did go well for romney last night. most people went in and out of food stamps and in and out of welfare in year-and-a-half. most people don't want to be on the government dole. most people want to work. most people are ambitious is. i don't buy, i'm surprised obama didn't bring up the 47% number last night. i'm surprised he didn't reframe it by saying something like yes, we've had a number of people on entitlements. we've had a number of people on food stamps. we had to do it to get people out of the bush recession. hopefully over time once we see numbers moving in the right direction, moody's is projecting 10 million more jobs over next 10 years, i'm sorry over next four years. boston consulting saying will get two million manufacturing jobs over the next couple of years. so these are we're on the right track. these are the metrics that need to be brought up and should have been brought up last night in the debate. >> alan, do you know anybody on food stamps or government assistance, alan? >> i do. yeah. >> okay. and
it did go well for romney last night. most people went in and out of food stamps and in and out of welfare in year-and-a-half. most people don't want to be on the government dole. most people want to work. most people are ambitious is. i don't buy, i'm surprised obama didn't bring up the 47% number last night. i'm surprised he didn't reframe it by saying something like yes, we've had a number of people on entitlements. we've had a number of people on food stamps. we had to do it to get people...
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> we expect it all night long, romney will have a good night. >> he is an experienced debater, and this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> president obama is a gifted speaker. he's done this before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of stage. >> ryan's words echoed a word from meyers haorbgs said the president was widely regarded as one of the most political communicators in modern history. there's a 25-point advantage for obama on who voters think will win the debates. the obama camp likes to remind that he doesn't have enough time to prepare for the debates because he is busy being chief. when it comes to how much debates matter, it depends. >> quite a few have lost an election with a debate. so it can matter. >> these match-ups can produce memorable lines. like in 1980, between ronald reagan and president carter. >> there you go again. >> and lloyd benson's swipe at quail. >> jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> and then the moments that seemed to say more, like george h. bush looking at his watch. and rick perry's oops remark. an
> we expect it all night long, romney will have a good night. >> he is an experienced debater, and this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> president obama is a gifted speaker. he's done this before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of stage. >> ryan's words echoed a word from meyers haorbgs said the president was widely regarded as one of the most political communicators in modern history. there's a 25-point advantage for obama on who voters think will...
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you heard the president last night with mr. romney. mr. romney being a different mr. romney than we've seen him for the last 18 months or the last section years. do you think even with the new hit romney that showed up last night when he starts talking about states' rights, when he starts talking about regulation or deregulation, when he starts saying he doesn't advocate $5 trillion tax cut when in fact the numbers prove that he does and has been advocating that, will that resonate with independent voters and/or undecided voters in your state of ohio? >> i don't think so. i think people realize that governor romney is still wrong on medicare and still wrong on trade and still wrong on jobs and still wrong on the middle class. i think that's increasingly clear. again it goes back to which path do you go. do you want to go back to the trickle down economics you give tax cuts to the rich and hope it helps the middle class or do you focus on the middle class and that's trait enforcement, it's i don't think training at community colleges like columbus state and sinclair. i
you heard the president last night with mr. romney. mr. romney being a different mr. romney than we've seen him for the last 18 months or the last section years. do you think even with the new hit romney that showed up last night when he starts talking about states' rights, when he starts talking about regulation or deregulation, when he starts saying he doesn't advocate $5 trillion tax cut when in fact the numbers prove that he does and has been advocating that, will that resonate with...
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how would you grade mitt romney last night? >> i gave him a full a and i gave obama a c minus and it was kind of a gift. you know, i hate to admit it, but i go all the way back to the 1960 debate, steve. this was the biggest gaffe between an incumbent president's performance and a challenger's performance ever. for those who think 1980 was a bigger gaffe, i i would invite them to go back and see that debate. yes, there was a big gaffe between eggen and carter, but it wasn't this big. >> steve: you're making it sound quite historic. in fact, "wall street journal" says this is the best debate effort by a republican nominee since reagan back in 1980, which would have been 32 years from now. do you think this is going to move the polls, move the meter? >> that's the big question. if you're asking me to guess, and that's all i'm doing this morning, i would say it will move the needle. i have no idea how much. is it a point or two or is it a bunch much points? we're all going to find out in the next wave of polls. i think everybody i
how would you grade mitt romney last night? >> i gave him a full a and i gave obama a c minus and it was kind of a gift. you know, i hate to admit it, but i go all the way back to the 1960 debate, steve. this was the biggest gaffe between an incumbent president's performance and a challenger's performance ever. for those who think 1980 was a bigger gaffe, i i would invite them to go back and see that debate. yes, there was a big gaffe between eggen and carter, but it wasn't this big....
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romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is you lose the lead. and i can't for the life of me believe that that's what they did, but that's the only explanation. they told the president, don't be confrontational. they told the president, be above it all, act presidential. but the one thing that gets me when i was running for re-election as mayor and when i was running for re-election as governor and even d.a., i had a passion for what we'd accomplished. i had a passion to explain where we didn't ak plir something, why we didn't, what the road blocks were, and he could have done that without being aggres
romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is...
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the question is, can jesus stain it beyond one night. >> in any number of areas what governor romney has done as he said laid, said last night he laid out the broad principles but now you have gotten specific about the good parts, the carrot if you will and very vague about the stick. >> obama is brilliant in a speech, a peach is different than when you are in an argument and when you are in an argument if you don't bring passion to your argument the other side is generally going to win and what you say almost matters as much as how you say it, and the scary thing about politics is, substance aside, you know, a lot of the journalist whose know the substance on these issues are debating with themselves who was more accurate and who was not. when you listen to the person in the street, the voter, the juror who i speak to, they say i understood romney, i didn't understand obama. i liked romney's style, i didn't like the president laying down. >> rose: we conclude this evening with barbara, a computer scientist and author, her book on voting heens is called broken ballots, will your vote
the question is, can jesus stain it beyond one night. >> in any number of areas what governor romney has done as he said laid, said last night he laid out the broad principles but now you have gotten specific about the good parts, the carrot if you will and very vague about the stick. >> obama is brilliant in a speech, a peach is different than when you are in an argument and when you are in an argument if you don't bring passion to your argument the other side is generally going to...
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romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. [ horn honks ] [ male announcer ] you start your day... love you, too. ...thinking about what's important to you -- your family... ...the mortgage... the kids' college tuition. [ cellphone ringing ] but life insurance? [ horn honking ] life is unpredictable. that's why at fidelity life we want you to think about term life insurance -- taking care of your family's future expenses if something happens to you. it's easy. we get to know you and your needs, then give you our best quote and our competitors'. you choose and save up to 70%. that could mean $250,000 of coverage for just $15 a month. we offer plans with no medical exam, and we've been in business for over 100 years. call fidelity life. ♪ or visit fideli
romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. [ horn honks ] [ male announcer ] you start your day... love you, too. ...thinking about what's important to you -- your family... ...the mortgage... the...
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>> where's mitt romney's small plan? >> you heard it last night. he has an entitlement reform plan, tax plan, corporate tax plan, energy plan, trade plan. the president doesn't. and i think it really showed. he imagined he was going to get through this race simply by disqualifying romney. they almost did it during the summer. they came this close. >> hold on a second. >> i want to ask you something. the whole debate last night was obama saying no to romney's agenda. we all learned romney's agenda. nobody learned obama's agenda. now he's going back to negativism. this is a huge mistake. let me tell you something else romney did to get reaction. your man obama is going to have so much trouble. romney said to 68 million viewers, i can make a deal. i can go across the aisle like i did in massachusetts. in fact he even said about his tax reform plan, if you don't like the specific version let's talk about some other options. but you, mr. president, you couldn't make a deal. you had a deal, you broke the deal with john boehner. that's what the woodward b
>> where's mitt romney's small plan? >> you heard it last night. he has an entitlement reform plan, tax plan, corporate tax plan, energy plan, trade plan. the president doesn't. and i think it really showed. he imagined he was going to get through this race simply by disqualifying romney. they almost did it during the summer. they came this close. >> hold on a second. >> i want to ask you something. the whole debate last night was obama saying no to romney's agenda. we...
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romney demolished that last night. how is it going to appear to anybody who has seen romney demolish that. >> bill: i agree. romney has to also. >> he has to use his stuff wisely. >> bill: he has got to come up with a theme. romney doesn't have a theme yet. what he done last night was won the debate on his own personal command of the issues. now he has got to get a theme for the second and third debate. and the theme i would assume would be president's incompetent. he is a not doing it on the economy or overseas. last word, charld? >> unfortunately you are wrong. that's the tact that he has tried. the guy is a good guy but he failed. it didn't work. that's the clint eastwood line. his attack has to be what he did last night. this is trickle down government. the reason everything has gone wrong, the debt is high. the economy is struggling. unemployment is high is because is he a trickle down government guy. that's where he scored all his points. if he keeps it up with a barrage of that from here to election day, he wins
romney demolished that last night. how is it going to appear to anybody who has seen romney demolish that. >> bill: i agree. romney has to also. >> he has to use his stuff wisely. >> bill: he has got to come up with a theme. romney doesn't have a theme yet. what he done last night was won the debate on his own personal command of the issues. now he has got to get a theme for the second and third debate. and the theme i would assume would be president's incompetent. he is a not...
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romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. >>> absent from last night's debate were any issues that related particularly to just over half the voting population. that's women. and mr. romney probably thought better than to mention republicans defunding planned parenthood or mandating transvageal ultrasound probes. yet, if you listened closely, women were mentioned at every turn. >> i was in dayton, ohio, and a woman grabbed my arp and she said, i have been out of work since may. can you help me? yesterday was a rally in denver, and a woman came up to her with a baby in her arms. a woman came to me and she said, look, i can't afford insurance for myself or my son. >> joining us here in new york is my colleague crist yal ball, one of the mosts of "the cycl
romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. >>> absent from last night's debate were any issues that related particularly to just over half the voting population. that's women. and mr....
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wasn't disavow his tax plan last night mitt romney was explaining us tax when explaining the realities of it the fact is we've got a and internal revenue code that is massive massively confusing it cost the american economy huge numbers of dollars every year with folks with anger out of the now suggesting changing what he's saying only twenty one percent across the board he's talking about a limited being deductions and changing things around what making it making that the tax code simpler which i think is something we've all talked about we've all agreed about there are savings that come about from that to the american economy as well so you know it's one of these things where i love it we've we focused on the fact that romney is apparently the big fat liar in this when you know you've got the huffington post surprisingly enough which is pointing out a whole host of obama's lies last night about his record about what he wants to do but the real question though andrew is so you're right he might some by the tax code but he says that he wants to grow the middle class in the old romney c
wasn't disavow his tax plan last night mitt romney was explaining us tax when explaining the realities of it the fact is we've got a and internal revenue code that is massive massively confusing it cost the american economy huge numbers of dollars every year with folks with anger out of the now suggesting changing what he's saying only twenty one percent across the board he's talking about a limited being deductions and changing things around what making it making that the tax code simpler...
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i mean, look, chris, last night if mitt romney was talking, he was lying. he lied about his tax plan that cost $5 trillion. his campaign has never disputed that his tax plan costs $5 trillion until last night. he lied about medicare and what his plan will do. >> we are going to get into some of those specifics, so here's -- >> here's my point, chris. i don't believe that style will win out over substance in the long run. one reason mitt romney -- >> let me ask the same question to shawn. shawn, style versus substance? >> right. i think last night was a clear choice. and on style and on substance or any other measure that you want to judge it, mitt romney laid out a clear plan for this country and did it in a way that resonated with most americans. i think on the other hand it was not a question of style that the president lacked, it was a lacking of policies and a record over the last four years that he was able to pivot to. and i think the problem is that at some point in the middle of the debate last night the president finally realized, wait, i have actu
i mean, look, chris, last night if mitt romney was talking, he was lying. he lied about his tax plan that cost $5 trillion. his campaign has never disputed that his tax plan costs $5 trillion until last night. he lied about medicare and what his plan will do. >> we are going to get into some of those specifics, so here's -- >> here's my point, chris. i don't believe that style will win out over substance in the long run. one reason mitt romney -- >> let me ask the same...
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mitt romney also talked about the deficit last night. and he claims that even with his tax cut, he will not add to the defici deficit. >> my number one principle is there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. that's part one. so there's no economist that can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. >> the problem in both of these claims is a lack of specifics. what the president is assuming, the reason we said false on his claim, he basically is assuming if he just did a tax cut and nothing else, then it would include this giant amount of tax breaks for people out there. but that's what mr. romney is saying he won't do. he's saying he has all these specifics in terms of cutting deductions, finding ways of closing loopholes so that people would pay more and there wouldn't be this giant tax cut but he wouldn't say what that would be. this lack of
mitt romney also talked about the deficit last night. and he claims that even with his tax cut, he will not add to the defici deficit. >> my number one principle is there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. that's part one. so there's no economist that can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the...
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was at last night's debate-- a criticism romney's spokesman dismissed as damage control. good evening, i'm jeffrey brown. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight, we get the latest on the candidates' appearances today, as they reprised last night's messages about jobs and the economy. >> brown: plus, we have our own debate on the differing approaches to taxes and deficit reduction. >> woodruff: then, we turn to the war in syria, as skirmishes spill over the border with turkey for a second day in a row. >> brown: we come back to last night's debate with two takes on how it was received. ray suarez talked to voters in the swing state of florida. >> i didn't hear what i need to about jobs. that is the number one interest of generally everyone in the united states. >> woodruff: and in our regular "daily download" segment, margaret warner explores how the face off played in social media. >> brown: and it hasn't happened in baseball in 45 years. we look at 'triple crown' winner miguel cabrera of the detroit tigers. that's all ahead on tonight's "newshour."
was at last night's debate-- a criticism romney's spokesman dismissed as damage control. good evening, i'm jeffrey brown. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight, we get the latest on the candidates' appearances today, as they reprised last night's messages about jobs and the economy. >> brown: plus, we have our own debate on the differing approaches to taxes and deficit reduction. >> woodruff: then, we turn to the war in syria, as skirmishes...
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mitt romney accomplished what he needed to on wednesday night. i think it will probably move the numbers by maybe two points, 2.5 points in his direction. you have to worry if you're romney that maybe people have made their decision up but it's too late. he gave the best effort he could, where president obama did not have his strongest night. >> would you say it it was a game changer? it moved the direction he wants. is it the game changer he needs? >> the analogy i like to use as a sports fan romney was down by a field goal, sets himself up where if he scores again say with a bod job support on friday or there are two more debates then it looks like a very winnable election for him. i don't think it was going to be enough to move the polls into a romney lead or a tie by itself. we'll have to see. one pollle had romney down by five. he had gained mostly undecided voters saying romney passes the basic competence test. obama 49% in these polls only inched forward by another point or so. he can basically clinch it. >> he doesn't have to get all the
mitt romney accomplished what he needed to on wednesday night. i think it will probably move the numbers by maybe two points, 2.5 points in his direction. you have to worry if you're romney that maybe people have made their decision up but it's too late. he gave the best effort he could, where president obama did not have his strongest night. >> would you say it it was a game changer? it moved the direction he wants. is it the game changer he needs? >> the analogy i like to use as a...
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>> this was mitt romney's night. he was sharp. he was specific. he had a plan of attack. and he went after barack obama every way he could, and holding him accountable for the obama record. we haven't seen that too much in this campaign. there's been so many personal attacks. so many back and forth. he was able to say, look, this is what you promised four years ago. where is the gap here? most importantly, he's able to say, this is the choice i'm offering. and he was able to control this debate. >> did you think that romney will see a bounce coming out of this, the way that obama had a bounce coming out of the convention, in charlotte, with bill clinton's famous speech? >> he is looking for a comeback moment. what happens next is going to be important. he's going to be giving a speech on foreign policy. he'll be asked about this in interviews in the coming days. if he can build on this, yes. he will start to close the gap. the romney campaign, just happened just at the right moment for them to capitalize on something. knowing you have five weeks left. there's a couple of
>> this was mitt romney's night. he was sharp. he was specific. he had a plan of attack. and he went after barack obama every way he could, and holding him accountable for the obama record. we haven't seen that too much in this campaign. there's been so many personal attacks. so many back and forth. he was able to say, look, this is what you promised four years ago. where is the gap here? most importantly, he's able to say, this is the choice i'm offering. and he was able to control this...
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we have expected all along that governor romney will have a good night. he is prepared more than any candidate in history. and he has shown himself to be a very good debater through the years. so we understand that this is an important moment. we're just going to continue to make the case we have throughout the campaign, through the convention, to the american people. governor romney, they say he has practiced zingers and lines for months and months. we're sure he'll put on a show on wednesday night. >> you played a huge role in 2008 in debate prep. what have you told the president? there's an incumbent trap. don't fall into it. what does he have to do right? >> challengers benefit from this, being on the same stage has traditionally benefited the challenger. so the president is not worried about zingers and lines. he's got time with the american people to explain his case for re-election, about what he wants to do on the economy, how to focus on the middle class. that's what we've done through the whole campaign. it's been consistent day after day trying
we have expected all along that governor romney will have a good night. he is prepared more than any candidate in history. and he has shown himself to be a very good debater through the years. so we understand that this is an important moment. we're just going to continue to make the case we have throughout the campaign, through the convention, to the american people. governor romney, they say he has practiced zingers and lines for months and months. we're sure he'll put on a show on wednesday...